{"id":942,"date":"2014-01-05T00:11:14","date_gmt":"2014-01-05T05:11:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/?p=942"},"modified":"2014-01-13T09:50:46","modified_gmt":"2014-01-13T14:50:46","slug":"faustian-latin-vii-some-bits-i-missed-one-of-them-not-latin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/?p=942","title":{"rendered":"Faustian Latin VII &#8211; some bits I missed, one of them not Latin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I will get to Faustus&#8217; oath soon, but in the mean time here are three bits I missed. At some point, I hope to put these all together on one page, in order, with line references to the various editions, since those are highly variable (these numbers are from Bevington &#038; Rasmussen&#8217;s Revels edition):<\/p>\n<p>I.1.12:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"+1\" color=\"red\"><b>On kai m<u>e<\/u> on<\/b><\/font><\/p>\n<p>This is not Latin, but Classical (and Philosophical) Greek. It would be spelled like this in Greek script: <b>&#8002;&#957; &#954;&#945;&#8054; &#956;&#8052; &#8057;&#957;<\/b>, but that&#8217;s more than you need to know to pronounce it. (Several early editions have &#8216;economy&#8217; but that is just a wrong guess by a confused typesetter.) The pronunciation is easy: <b>On Kye May On<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>The words mean &#8216;being and not being&#8217;, the subject of some of the more abstruse parts of metaphysics (<b>on<\/b>, &#8216;being&#8217; is related to &#8216;ontology&#8217;, <b>kai<\/b> means &#8216;and&#8217;, and <b>me<\/b> means &#8216;not&#8217;). Probably all the words except the &#8216;and&#8217; (<b>kai<\/b>) should be accented. It should sound something like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.curculio.org\/FaustianLatin\/LastBits01.wav\">this<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>II.1.29:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"+1\" color=\"red\"><b>V&eacute;n<u>i<\/u> v&eacute;n<u>i<\/u> Mephist&oacute;phile.<\/b><\/font><\/p>\n<p>This is not the same <b>veni<\/b> as in Caesar&#8217;s famous <b>Veni, vidi, vici<\/b>. That <b>veni<\/b> has a long E and means &#8216;I came&#8217;. Faustus&#8217; <b>veni<\/b> has a short E and is imperative singular, a command addressed to one person: &#8216;come&#8217;. (One verb having two forms that are spelled the same but pronounced differently is not unheard of in English, where &#8216;read&#8217; as in &#8216;I read books&#8217; rhymes with &#8216;reed&#8217; when it&#8217;s present tense, with &#8216;red&#8217; when it&#8217;s past tense.) He&#8217;s just telling Mephistophilis to come to him, repeating the verb to show urgency or impatience: &#8220;Come, come, Mephistophilis&#8221;. The dropped S on the name is not classical Latin, but is the sort of thing Greek and Latin do with vocatives. The whole thing should sound like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.curculio.org\/FaustianLatin\/LastBits02.wav\">this<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>II.3.57:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"+1\" color=\"red\"><b>Intellig&eacute;ntia.<\/b><\/font><\/p>\n<p>The meaning is easy: &#8216;intelligence&#8217;, meaning presumably that an angel is in charge of turning each sphere, they don&#8217;t just turn by themselves. For pronunciations, it&#8217;s hard to say whether Marlowe would have said &#8216;intellig&eacute;nt-ee-yuh&#8217; like modern Latinists or &#8216;intellig&eacute;nts-ee-yuh&#8217;. More likely the latter, I think, and it might be more intelligible to the audience, too. Here&#8217;s my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.curculio.org\/FaustianLatin\/LastBits03.wav\">version<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I will get to Faustus&#8217; oath soon, but in the mean time here are three bits I missed. At some point, I hope to put these all together on one page, in order, with line references to the various editions, &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/curculio.org\/?p=942\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[106,140],"tags":[135,156,207],"class_list":["post-942","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blackfriars","category-english-literature","tag-marlowe","tag-e-m-e-drama","tag-faust"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/942","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=942"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/942\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":956,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/942\/revisions\/956"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=942"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=942"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=942"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}