{"id":236,"date":"2008-07-26T13:33:55","date_gmt":"2008-07-26T18:33:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/?p=236"},"modified":"2013-09-01T17:49:26","modified_gmt":"2013-09-01T22:49:26","slug":"does-this-count","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/?p=236","title":{"rendered":"Does This Count?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Gilleland, <a href=\"http:\/\/laudatortemporisacti.blogspot.com\/\">Laudator Temporis Acti<\/a>, collects examples of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mgilleland.com\/apa.htm\">asyndetic, privative adjectives<\/a>. Here is a possible bilingual example from the Younger Pliny (<em>Epistulae<\/em> 2.3.8), writing of those who can&#8217;t be bothered to go see the orator Isaeus:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em>Aphil&oacute;kalon<\/em> inlitteratum iners ac paene etiam turpe est, non putare tanti cognitionem qua nulla est iucundior, nulla pulchrior, nulla denique humanior.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>P. G. Walsh (Oxford World&#8217;s Classics, 2006) loses two out of three privatives, and (like Shackleton Bailey in Cicero&#8217;s letters) substitutes French for Pliny&#8217;s Greek:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>To fail to regard as worthwhile an acquaintance which is as pleasant, charming, and civilized as can be, is an attitude which is <em>malappris<\/em>, uneducated, sluggish, and virtually degrading.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Betty Radice (Penguin, 1963) also loses two out of three privatives (unless you count &#8216;ignorance&#8217; as well as &#8216;apathy&#8217;) and combines Pliny&#8217;s four adjectives into two phrases:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Only a boorish ignorance  and a shocking degree of apathy could prevent you from thinking it worth an effort to gain an experience which will prove so enjoyable, civilized and rewarding.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Her Loeb translation (1969) is the same except that it expands the second phrase to &#8220;a degree of apathy which is really rather shocking&#8221; and adds an Oxford comma after &#8220;civilized&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Too bad Pliny tacks on a fourth, non-privative adjective with an <em>ac<\/em>. Does that make the whole list non-asyndetic? And would the word be &#8216;syndetic&#8217;?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Gilleland, Laudator Temporis Acti, collects examples of asyndetic, privative adjectives. Here is a possible bilingual example from the Younger Pliny (Epistulae 2.3.8), writing of those who can&#8217;t be bothered to go see the orator Isaeus: Aphil&oacute;kalon inlitteratum iners ac &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/curculio.org\/?p=236\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[44],"tags":[115],"class_list":["post-236","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-latin-literature","tag-pliny2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/236","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=236"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/236\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":734,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/236\/revisions\/734"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=236"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=236"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/curculio.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=236"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}